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Georgianna (Clough) Hall – Great Grandmother
George Perry & Anna Jones Perry (Parents of Kittie Perry Clough/Shipman, Grandparents of Georgiana Clough Hall), Anna’s 2nd husband is James Evans)
In 1850 Census of Rome, NY there was a 21 year old George Perry from Wales living as a boarder with 15 others. There were no others in the home from Wales. It is possible that this is Georgiana’s grandfather.
In 1860 Census of Rome, NY George Perry is listed as a 33 year old laborer from Wales his wife is Ann (age 34). Ellen Jones, job listed as “service” also resides with them, age 20 also from Wales (possibly Ann’s relation as Ann’s maiden name is Jones) and John Snyder a laborer born in NY (age 50).
Children are Delia age 3 & Catherine age 2 both born in NY. Kittie’s marriage license to Shipman indicates that she was born in the year 1860 in October. The census was taken in June of 1860. It is possible that Kittie lied about her age as Shipman was younger than she and Catherine/Kittie are one in the same.
In the 1870 Census Ann Perry is listed in Rome NY (age 42) with Delia (13), Katie (11), William (9) and George (7).
In the 1880 Census William C (clerk in store, 20) & George H (18 ) Perry are listed as “step-son” living with James Evans (who works in the Iron Mill) and Anna Evans in on E Dominick Street in Rome, NY. James (born in England, with parents both born in England) and Anna Evans are listed on the back of a photo provided by my uncle Charlie Hall as Georgianna’s grandparents.
In the 1900 Census William C Perry is still listed in Rome, NY, born 8/1860 both parents from Wales. He works at the post office and his married to Lillian B France born in New York. They have been married 15 years and have no children. His father-in-law Jacob France lives with them, born in MA 7/1831. In 1910 William and Lillian live in Rome, both age 49
Frank B (or D) Clough & Kittie E. Perry (Parents of Georgianna Clough Hall)
• On August 11, 1833 a Franklin Clough married Orpha H. Breed in Lynn. Not sure if this was a relation.
• In the 1880 census there is a Frank D Clough born in NH living in Lynn with his parents. I don’t think this is the Frank Clough who fathered Georgiana. He is 21 years old and works in a shoe factory. Parents are J. Everett, age 48, born in MA who works in a shoe factory & Mary E. born in NH, age 40. Brother is Charles E, born in NH, age 25, a shoe cutter. A grandmother, age 75, named Phoebe Ann, born in MA (parents born in MA) who has a broken leg, also lives with the family. There is a Frank D Clough from Lynn, works in a shoe factory, born in Rochester, NH who in 1881, age 23, married Henrietta Sildon. His parents are Josiah E. & Mary E.
• I found the following records (image not available: MA vital records 1841-1910:
- 1882 Boston Marriage: Frank Clough Vol 336, pg 72
This may not make sense since Georgiana was born in Rome, NY in 1882….
- 1885 Death in Lynn, MA: Franklin Clough Vol 364, pg 259
• In the 1900 Census there is a Kittie Clough (Georgianna’s mother) listed on 25 Common Street in Lynn. Kittie is listed as a widow. She was born in NY in October 1860 and was age 39 at the time of the Census. She has given birth to one child. Both of her parents were from Wales. She is listed as living with 3 boarders and a servant. One of the boarders is Frank M Shipman born June 1862, age 37 a machinist from Canada (Eng). His parents were also both from Canada. One of the homes tenants is listed as “servant”.
• In the 1910 Census Kittie is listed as Katie E living on Lafayette St, Salem, MA with Frank M. Shipman. He is a lunch helper at a restaurant and they have been married for 8 years.
• In the 1920 census Kittie E is listed back in Lynn living with Franklin M. Shipman on 921Western Ave. They own the home. And have about 11 boarders. Frank came to the US in 1878 (and became a citizen in 1888). He is the owner of a restaurant. His father is still listed as being from Canada but his mother is listed as being from Ireland (other census’ listed Canada).
• Marriage Records for Frank M. Shipman & Kittie E. Clough (Perry): Frank is age 40, it’s his first marriage parents are Mary A Nolan and Silas H. It is Kittie’s 3rd marriage (D) and her parents are Anna Jones (Jones listed as maiden name) and George Perry. The marriage took place on October 1, 1902 in Boston but was recorded in Lynn. It confirms’ Kittie’s birthplace as Rome, NY and Frank’s as Rockville, Canada.
Georgiana’s grandparents are listed on the back of an old photo as James Evans (who was Ann’s second husband – Georgianna’s actual grandfather was George Perry) and Ann Perry (Grandma Jones Perry Evans). Other Grandchildren include: Anna Belle Palmer, Kitty Mae Palmer, George Spoor & Leland Spoor.
Georgianna (Clough) Hall
Charles G. Hall (my uncle) tells me with absolute certainty that Kitty Perry and Grandma Shipman are the same person. He has it in Georgianna Hall’s handwriting. Ann Perry Evans was Kitty Perry’s mother.
When thinking about Georgianna and Grandma Shipman Charlie had a cringe moment. He says the cringe moment is behavior you remember where for one reason or another you have acted inappropriately. He goes on to say:
“I was talking to Georgianna at her house when I was probably eight or nine years old. Georgianna always treated me well and I had not yet withdrawn because of the animosity between her and my mother.
She was showing me some clothes that her mother had made for her as a baby and marveling at the craftsmanship I knew that she had lived with her aunt in Lynn, Massachusetts. I asked her why she had lived with an aunt instead of her mother. She began to cry and told me her mother did the best she could for her. At this stage I’m not clear on what age she left her mother and for what reason.
I wouldn’t totally give up on the Singer/Clough connection since it was treated as family fact in my youth. (Editor’s note: There is a James Clough Cropper of Broadway, NY in 1860 who made a patent claim” One other machine — again of which there is no record of production — should be included in this brief synopsis on figurals. It is one which we shall call the nymphs and which served as a basis for a patent taken out by James Clough Cropper of New York in 1860. Like so many others of its type, Cropper’s patent claim had nothing to do with the figural design but claimed improvement in threading and looping. )
I am enclosing some photographs relevant to Georgianna Hall, Kitty Shipman and Alex Haines. The writing on Georgianna 3 is by Edith Hall. The writing on Georgianna 1b and 2b is Georgianna’s.”
A subsequent message from Charlie reads:
“I had some thoughts about what I remember about Georgianna. I think I now remember that she was born in his New York. Sometime in the sixties I went to Oriskany and went to an home address which I thought I remembered my grandma giving me (Editor’s note: Utica Street?). It was a large house which was then serving as the library for the town”.
“A year or three ago I went back to Oriskany and asked directions to the library which turned out to be a library building and I thought I had missed remembered either the association or the town. Recently, I read on the Oriskany web site the fact that an old house used to be the library.
There is little doubt that Georgianna considered herself of a higher class than some of the family. If that was her childhood home, she may have been.”
In 1892 the census of NY Herkimer > District Frankfort lists the following:
Charles E Spoor (laborer) – age 30
Cordelia Spoor – age 36 (Kitty Perry’s sister Delia, Georgianna’s aunt)
Anna D Palmer – age 8
Kittie M Palmer – age 5
Leland E. Spoor – age 6
George P Spoor – age 2
In 1900, Leland Spoor age 14 is living with his grandparents? Danube, Herkimer, New York
Richard Foitz
63
Margaret A Foitz
62
In the 1880 census Kittie’s sister was Cordelia J. Palmer (born in NY, both parents born in Wales) married to a guy named Markus Palmer (a farmer, born in NY and both parents born in NY). And guess where they were living???? Oriskany, Oneida, New York!!
Note that an 1874 map of Oriskany shows a W. Evans owning the home in close proximity where the library would eventually stand (the corner of Utica a block away from the hotel). It may be just a coincidence that Georgiana’s grandmother’s (Ann Jones Perry) second husband was an Evans (James).
In Malden marriage records, June 19th 1904 in Lynn, MA, Charles M. Hall is listed as a “Last Maker” and Georgianna as “at home” Georgianna was born in Rome NY father Frank B Clough mother Kitty Perry (Shipman).
The Lynn marriage records list the same information but Georgiana’s father appears to be Frank D. Clough (versus the middle initial “B” recorded in Malden). Charles M. is age 23, Georgiana is age 22 born in Rome of Y.
Although born in Rome, NY according to family stories, she was sent to live with an Aunt in Lynn, MA. She is not found in the 1900 census in Lynn or elsewhere.
Georgianna died on February 14, 1964. Her obituary is as follows :
Georgianna Hall
Mrs. Georgianna (Clough) Hall, 82, of 138 Lawrence St. Malden, died Wednesday suddenly at her home. Born in Rome, N.Y. she had made her home in Malden for the past 61 years. She was the wife of the late Charles M. Hall.
Funeral Services will be held on Saturday at 1 p.m. at the Leo M Norton Funeral Home (editors note: Leo Norton was a very good friend of her son and my grandfather Charles G. Hall), 287 Main Street, Malden, with Rev. William P Gray of the First Congregational Church officiating. Burial will be in Forest Dale Cemetery.
Surviving are a son, Charles G. Hall, veterinarian, of 228 Main St, Malden, two grandchildren and two great grandchildren.
City of Rome from ROMAN CITIZEN newspaper, Rome, Oneida County, New York, Wednesday, August 14, 1850
Rome as it was in 1813.
What a sorry looking place was Rome in 1813, the land owned lst the Village and about it by a few individuals, unwilling to do anything to build up the place for fear of helping each other, and the few inhabitants unable to contend against this unhappy influence (but thank Heaven that influence is among the things that are past.) At that time there were near 1,200 inhabitants in the village.
Fort Stanwix, where the bloody scenes of the old French war and the trials of the Revolution with the Mother Country were enacted, was in a ruined state. A few of the pickets in the embankment were standing, the old Block House in the centre of the Fort, the ditch about three-fourths the entire length partly filled up with rubbish and grown over with elders and bushes –a few of the cannon formerly used, lying in its enclosure. The Fort occupied the block between what is now James and Spring street on the west and east side, Dominick and Liberty streets on the south and north sides.
The dwellings of the Messrs. Foster, Mudge, Draper, Stryker, Cole, Wights, and many other buildings are on the site of the Fort. There were the stores of Messrs. Smith & Hubbard, Benedict & Elliott, Gurdon Huntington, Wm. Wright, L. Green and Blair & Lynch, made up the mercantile part of the place –here and there was a small mechanics shop.
The old store in which in the early settlement of the country the Mssers. G. & H. Huntington made a fortune, stood near the Old Canal, occupied by them as an office. Opposite was a small 7 by 9 shop, one story high, kept by Mr. M_____, as a Grocery Store. Above it was a tavern house kept by a Mr. Gilbert and below the shop was Judge Dill’s dwelling house.
Over the Old Canal Putnam’s tannery where Parker’s Store House now is, beyond this was a dreary swamp with a road cut through it and laid with logs, leading to Verona. A hotel was kept where the American now stands by a Mr. Lee and adjoining it a story-and-a-half house kept by Doctor White. The old Jail and Court House were on the public square; the public school house stood on the same, the old meeting house in the village, facing the square had been built some 8 or 9 years and not painted, the tower boarded over to keep out the snow and rain, it might have been taken for an old Still House instead of a house of worship by strangers.
The roads that were not Corduroy were poor and those inhabitants who came to the Fort to trade, did not want for exercise in riding over them. The farm between the Village and the Ridge Mills was then leased by the George Clinton’s estate, by a Mr. Kenyon, and but partially cleared, run over by briers and so poor that he could not get a living, and it was sold to the Messrs. G. and H. Huntington at ten dollars per acre, by a contract made with Mr. L. (one of the proprietors of the Village.) John Barnard built about thirty small houses one story, 20 by 16 feet scattered all over the then settled part of the village and not painted, looking more like shanties than comfortable dwellings.
No paper was then published in the village, we had but three mails per week from the east, and such a mail, reader, it almost filled a peck basket. When the stage-horn gave notice of its approach, what a rush for the Post Office [then kept on James street in a small building in front of J. Hatheway's house,] there would be as many as twenty anxious ones to receive the weekly news from New York [city], after a week’s time in traveling all the way. It was not treated then as it is now, thrown on to a track and drawn up to the village and then drawn into the office over a rough pavement by some thoughtless fellow but carefully taken into the arms and deposited in the room and orders given by the Hon. Post Master to us waiting plebeians, “Gentlemen, this is the United States Mail, please all of you to be seated while we proceed to open it.” Well, peace to his ashes, he was a good man, one of a former generation; we shall not soon see his like. The generation then on the stage are most of them passed away, and a new set of men have been actively engaged in building up a fortune for themselves and improving the village, surrounded as it now is by a rich farming country constantly improving in intelligence, virtue and wealth, with the finest Plank Roads in the State centering here and a number more to be completed this season.
Rome Village now contains about six thousand inhabitants as good blocks of brick stores, pleasant dwellings with broad well graded and paved streets as can be found. An abundant water-power can be brought into use when inhabitants please to turn their attention to manufacturing purposes, all these advantages combined will make it a desirable place for the man of business to locate permanently.